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A Critic From the Mailbag
Feb 2nd, 2006, 6:28pm
 
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   Who are you to presume upon the common heritage that I and millions like me who's ancestors were among the first colonists and were Sons of liberty. You sir, have taken a part of history and seem to be using it to push your own political agenda.
   I consider myself a Son of liberty and i am not in your organization! What you are doing is sacrilegious and a blight on love of country and the Constitution. Perhaps you think me unjust in my accusation, sir. I would like you to explain yourself, taking our heritage and using it for your brand of patriotism, are you a Libertarian? Certainly not a Republican.

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Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2006, 7:42pm
 
The writer is obviously a liberal.  Liberals have been complaining a lot recently about how conservatives have successfully and effectively painted them as unpatriotic in the minds of the American people, an issue which they feel is costing them election victories.  Now they are trying to reverse that perception of them and turn it around on us.  

If liberals want a better example of how patriotism is used to push a political agenda they should take a closer look at the ACLU with whom they generally agree and strongly support.

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"Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise...We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country, and to show that we are really the folks that really stand for the spirit of our institutions."

- Roger Baldwin, founder of The ACLU, 1917


See Liberty Hall discussion thread entitled ' The ACLU ' at:
http://www.americansonsofliberty.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1101672394
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2006, 8:46pm
 
I gather from Mr American Patriot's email letter that he his convicted by his own conscience by what he sees at the various pages at American Sons of Liberty.com

I also conclude that he is indeed a liberal to center thinker and is likely a  registered Republican but could be more clearly defined as a 'Republicrat' just like 95% of the GOP, he supports Bush's one-world free trade fiascos, he supports the enabling of Communist China, lackluster border control, favors the patriot act and doesn't mind a little NSA snooping of American citizens.  Wink
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2006, 8:56pm
 
Well said, Gene.  He is probably just another RINO ( Republican In Name Only ).

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Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2006, 9:19pm
 
WOW! I love the RINO painted like the GOP mascot  Grin
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2006, 9:49pm
 
Yeah, rightwingstuff.com has a lot of cool graphics like this one which they put on t-shirts and other stuff.  I hope they don't mind me borrowing them to use as attachments in my posts.  I sent them an e-mail asking permission but never got a response.  If they complain I will remove them.  Let me know if they do.

Visit rightwingstuff.com website at http://www.rightwingstuff.com/

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Reply #6 - Sep 2nd, 2007, 5:23pm
 
Mr. Whitehead:

Who are you to presume upon the common heritage that I and millions like me who's ancestors were among the first colonists and were Sons of liberty. You sir, have taken a part of history and seem to be using it to push your own political agenda.
I consider myself a Son of liberty and i am not in your organization! What you are doing is sacrilegious and a blight on love of country and the Constitution. Perhaps you think me unjust in my accusation, sir. I would like you to explain yourself, taking our heritage and using it for your brand of patriotism, are you a Libertarian? Certainly not a Republican.

An American Patriot
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I am totally with this guy.  The word "Liberty" should not even be in the title of your organizaton.  Your title should rather read:  "Sons of Neocons"; or "Zionist Sons for an Orwellian Future".  There is little about your group that suggests anyone believes in liberty.  I am not a liberal; nor a rhino.  I have voted (regretably so except for Regan) for every R since Nixon (UGH)--Including GWB.  It is a toss up as to which of those two makes me the sicker!.  Bush is a liar and a moron.  

The original Sons of Liberty were just that:  Men, who in many cases risked their lives to briing God given "inalienable rights" to the masses.  Real Freedom steps right up to the line of license.  That kind of liberty comes from the Creator of the universe, not the barrell of an M-16.  

Like Radical Muslims who hate and dispense their brand of political revelation with force and fraud, there are plenty of Christians who believe in the same delivery mechanism; a good dose of them appear to reside from time to time on this web site.  

So, get some honesty and get "Sons of Liberty" out of your name; it is a fraud--you are frauds.  

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Reply #7 - Sep 2nd, 2007, 5:47pm
 
Welcome, Skipper and thank you for your honesty. I also voted for every Republican, except in the last election since I was 18. The "original" Sons of Liberty by todays standards in America, Skipper would be terrorists even though they risked everything for the inalienable rights of their countrymen. They would also be considered by the media and your leftwing friends as bigoted, hateful, intolerant and narrow minded.

Your right to say what you want to say is what I will stand for. Your accusatory tone and comparing of me, my website, this organization or members to radical muslims will however make your ip banning swift. I welcome your opposing views and I do hope you can have mature debate and conversation without the high and mighty accusatory tone, or you'll be another liberal casualty in the annals of Liberty Hall.

In conclusion, as ASL prepares to celebrate it's ninth anniversary, the name isn't changing.
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Reply #8 - Sep 2nd, 2007, 10:59pm
 
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...The word "Liberty" should not even be in the title of your organizaton. ...So, get some honesty and get "Sons of Liberty" out of your name; it is a fraud--you are frauds...


As a newbie you have a lot of nerve to come in here and demand a name change.  It's bad manners.

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...Your title should rather read:  "Sons of Neocons"; or "Zionist Sons for an Orwellian Future"....


Speaking for myself,  I am not very fond of " neocons " who, in my opinion, are dishonest frauds who promote liberalism in the name of "compassionate conservatism."  I also reject Zionist conspiracy theories and strongly support the state of Israel.  Evidently, you don't.

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...There is little about your group that suggests anyone believes in liberty. ...


How would you know?  How many posts have you even read in these forums?  You are welcome to define liberty as you understand it and we will do the same concerning the way we see it.

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...I am not a liberal; nor a rhino.  I have voted (regretably so except for Regan) for every R since Nixon (UGH)--Including GWB.  It is a toss up as to which of those two makes me the sicker!.  Bush is a liar and a moron. ...


If you have read much at all on this board then you know that we do not align ourselves with any political party.  When President Bush does wrong he is criticized for it here.  Liberals are almost always wrong and many don't even know the difference between right and wrong.  So yes, we are hard on them.  RINOs are in the Republican Party either for political expediency to have a better chance of getting elected or to subvert it with liberalism.  If they were honest they would switch to the Democratic Party.  I am glad that you are niether a RINO or a liberal but you are definitely not a true conservative or you would love this forum.

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...The original Sons of Liberty were just that:  Men, who in many cases risked their lives to briing God given "inalienable rights" to the masses.  Real Freedom steps right up to the line of license.  That kind of liberty comes from the Creator of the universe, not the barrell of an M-16. ...  


What do you mean by " license "?  Are you by any chance a libertarian?  I agree that our freedoms are God-given and the founding fathers of our nation acknowledged that in the Declaration of Independence and in many of their other writings.  One of those freedoms is the right of the people to keep and bear arms for self-defense, to discourage would-be tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung and to help defend our nation from invaders.  That concept also has biblical support.    

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...Like Radical Muslims who hate and dispense their brand of political revelation with force and fraud, there are plenty of Christians who believe in the same delivery mechanism; a good dose of them appear to reside from time to time on this web site...  


Obviously you mean me.  My political views have been shaped by my biblical worldview whether anyone likes it or not and that is reflected in my posts  I am not going to make any apologies for it.  That's just the way it is.  If that offends you then don't read my posts.  No one is forcing you to do so.  If anything I say here is a fraud then challenge it and prove it with intelligent debate.  You are restorting to name-calling before you even get your feet wet here.  Usually people who come here at least wait until they lose a few arguments before they do that.

Welcome to Liberty Hall.  I hope you stick around, Skip.

 

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Reply #9 - Sep 3rd, 2007, 5:35pm
 
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Welcome to Liberty Hall.  I hope you stick around, Skip.


Skip has described himself as a quasi-con. I don't think he has the courage to intelligently discuss his differing opinions. I really do hope I'm wrong, but we will see.
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Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2007, 8:14am
 
Thanks guys, just checking to see if you were paying attention.  I am not a libertarian; I am an enigma.  As a BA Evengelical Christian, I believe the Christian faith promises so much freedom, it too steps right up to the line of license.  Anything less is performance driven heresy.

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