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Jun 05th, 2005, 5:42am
 
Licensed to shoot Osama bin Laden
Former bodyguard carried 2 bullets to kill leader if about to be captured


June 5, 2005
1:00 a.m. EST
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Osama bin Laden doesn't plan to be taken alive, according to one of his former personal bodyguards who told a London-based Arabic newspaper he had been authorized to kill the al-Qaida leader if it ever appeared he was about to be captured.

"I was the only member of his bodyguard who was given this authority," Abu Jindal, a 35-year-old Yemeni, who served in bin Laden's security entourage from 1995 to 2000, told al-Quds al-Arabi.

Jindal, whose real name is Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri, said threats on bin Laden's life were an ongoing concern then, before he became the target of U.S. wrath following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. At least 3 assassination attempts occurred during the period of Jindal's service in Afghanistan.

In 1998, an 18-year-old Uzbek youth was recruited – presumably by the Saudis – to kill bin Laden, motivated by a promised bounty of over a half-million dollars and Saudi citizenship.

"He was only 18 and had been deceived," said Jindal. "He was crying in a very pathetic manner and said, 'I made a mistake.' Bin Laden reportedly had the failed hitman set free.

After a second attempt in Jalalabad, bin Laden and his family moved to the safer area of Kandahar in the south at the urging of Mullah Omar, leader of the Taliban. Thereafter, his entourage always included 14-16 bodyguards for protection. Jindal was the only one licensed to kill the al-Qaida head.

"I took care to keep the two bullets in good condition and cleaned them every night," Jindal said. ... "If enemy forces surrounded Sheikh Osama and there was no possibility that he would escape, I was to kill him before they could catch him alive."

The Saudi government repeatedly sought bin Laden's return, once flying his mother and half-brother to the Kandahar airport to coax him home. But he stayed beyond their grasp.

Jindal, who served a brief prison sentence before returning to his home in Yemen, remains under surveillance by intelligence services, reports the London Times.


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Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2005, 10:37am
 
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Thats great news! I would hope the 82nd Airborne or whoever will capture bin Laden would honor that request  Lips Sealed
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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2005, 7:59pm
 
CIA 'knows Bin Laden whereabouts'  


Monday, 20 June, 2005, 11:20 GMT 12:20 UK
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The US has offered $25m for Bin Laden's capture. The head of the US Central Intelligence Agency has said he has an "excellent idea" where Osama Bin Laden is hiding.  But CIA director Porter Goss did not say when the world's most wanted man would be caught, nor his location.

He told Time magazine there were "weak links" in the US-led war on terror. His remarks follow recent US criticism of Pakistan's role in hunting suspects.

Bin Laden, wanted for the 9/11 attacks, is widely believed to be in Pakistan's tribal region bordering Afghanistan.

He has eluded capture ever since the 11 September, 2001 airliner attacks in the United States for which al-Qaeda is blamed.

Thousands of US-led troops have been deployed to find the Saudi-born billionaire, who has a $25m bounty on his head.

'Sanctuaries'

Mr Goss said it was unlikely Bin Laden would be brought to justice until "we strengthen all the links" in the chain in the US-led hunt for terror suspects.

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"In the chain that you need to successfully wrap up the war on terror, we have some weak links."

- CIA Director Porter Goss
 

"When you go to the very difficult question of dealing with sanctuaries in sovereign states, you're dealing with a problem of our sense of international obligation, fair play.

"We have to find a way to work in a conventional world in unconventional ways that are acceptable to the international community."

Asked if he had a good idea where Bin Laden is, he said: "I have an excellent idea of where he is. What's the next question?"

'Irresponsible'

The CIA chief did not mention Pakistan by name in his interview with Time.

But his comments come after a row between Islamabad and the departing US ambassador to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, who has frequently accused Pakistan of sheltering terror suspects.

The US envoy was angered last week after Pakistani television station Geo interviewed a senior Taleban commander in Afghanistan, who said both Bin Laden and Taleban leader Mullah Omar were alive and well.

"If a TV station can get in touch with them, how can the intelligence service of a country which has nuclear bombs and a lot of security and military forces not find them?" asked Mr Khalilzad in an interview with an Afghan television station.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry spokesman called Mr Khalilzad's remarks "irresponsible".

Pakistan was the main backer of Afghanistan's hardline former Taleban rulers until President Musharraf joined the war on terror in late 2001.

Hundreds of terror suspects, including a string of men alleged to be senior al-Qaeda figures, have been arrested in Pakistan since then.

'Intent high'

Mr Goss, a critic of the CIA's former tactics, said he was giving the agency a thorough shake-up, and it was doing a "pretty good job" staying ahead of al-Qaeda's capability.

On the possibility of more al-Qaeda attacks on US targets, he said: "Certainly the intent is very high."


Source:  BBC news article at
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Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2005, 8:01pm
 
Exclusive: CIA Commander: We Let bin Laden Slip Away

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Cornered? Bin Laden was in Tora Bora, a new book says  

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Aug. 15, 2005 issue - During the 2004 presidential campaign, George W. Bush and John Kerry battled about whether Osama bin Laden had escaped from Tora Bora in the final days of the war in Afghanistan. Bush, Kerry charged, "didn't choose to use American forces to hunt down and kill" the leader of Al Qaeda. The president called his opponent's allegation "the worst kind of Monday-morning quarterbacking." Bush asserted that U.S. commanders on the ground did not know if bin Laden was at the mountain hideaway along the Afghan border.

But in a forthcoming book, the CIA field commander for the agency's Jawbreaker team at Tora Bora, Gary Berntsen, says he and other U.S. commanders did know that bin Laden was among the hundreds of fleeing Qaeda and Taliban members. Berntsen says he had definitive intelligence that bin Laden was holed up at Tora Bora—intelligence operatives had tracked him—and could have been caught. "He was there," Berntsen tells NEWSWEEK. Asked to comment on Berntsen's remarks, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones passed on 2004 statements from former CENTCOM commander Gen. Tommy Franks. "We don't know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001," Franks wrote in an Oct. 19 New York Times op-ed. "Bin Laden was never within our grasp." Berntsen says Franks is "a great American. But he was not on the ground out there. I was."

In his book—titled "Jawbreaker"—the decorated career CIA officer criticizes Donald Rumsfeld's Defense Department for not providing enough support to the CIA and the Pentagon's own Special Forces teams in the final hours of Tora Bora, says Berntsen's lawyer, Roy Krieger. (Berntsen would not divulge the book's specifics, saying he's awaiting CIA clearance.) That backs up other recent accounts, including that of military author Sean Naylor, who calls Tora Bora a "strategic disaster" because the Pentagon refused to deploy a cordon of conventional forces to cut off escaping Qaeda and Taliban members. Maj. Todd Vician, a Defense Department spokesman, says the problem at Tora Bora "was not necessarily just the number of troops."

Berntsen's book gives, by contrast, a heroic portrayal of CIA activities at Tora Bora and in the war on terror. Ironically, he has sued the agency over what he calls unacceptable delays in approving his book—a standard process for ex-agency employees describing classified matters. "They're just holding the book," which is scheduled for October release, he says. "CIA officers, Special Forces and U.S. air power drove the Taliban out in 70 days. The CIA has taken roughly 80 days to clear my book." Jennifer Millerwise, a CIA spokeswoman, says Berntsen's "timeline is not accurate," adding that he submitted his book as an ex-employee only in mid-June. "We take seriously our goal of responding quickly."

—Michael Hirsh

© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.


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Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2005, 6:59am
 
Saturday, November 5, 2005 · Last updated 12:13 a.m. PT

Bin Laden publicly quiet for long time

By KATHERINE SHRADER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER


WASHINGTON -- Osama bin Laden, known for his fiery public statements, has been publicly mum for the longest stretch since the suicide hijackings on Sept. 11, 2001.

That leaves U.S. counterterrorism experts questioning what, if anything, his silence means.

The al-Qaida chief with a $25 million U.S. bounty on his head issued two audio statements in December, his last known public words.

He was last seen on a videotaped message to Americans on Oct. 29, 2004, saying the United States could avoid another Sept. 11 attack if it stopped threatening the security of Muslims.

"Any state that does not mess with our security has naturally guaranteed its own security," bin Laden said in a translation of an address aired on the Al-Jazeera network discussing the 2004 presidential elections.

Since the 9/11 attacks, the longest bin Laden had gone without issuing a new public statement - audio or video - was just over nine months. He has now let 10 months pass.

Two U.S. counterterrorism officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the subject's sensitivity, said there is no evidence to suggest bin Laden is dead. The working assumption is that he is alive, even if he isn't churning out tapes.

Ben Venzke, chief executive at the IntelCenter, a government contractor that does support work for the intelligence community, said terrorism analysts are paying attention.

"This is the first time things have changed in years. Messages have generally come in a consistent pattern, and now they are not," Venzke said. "It is likely that these changes in messaging by al-Qaida are the result of planning and a PR strategy, as opposed to their computer broke."

Venzke noted it was also the first October since 2002 that bin Laden had not delivered a message addressed specifically to Americans.

The terror leader is believed to be hiding in a rugged area along Afghanistan's border with Pakistan, where the Pakistani government has little control and tribal loyalties run deep.

Venzke notes there could be a number of factors contributing to bin Laden's public silence. He may have decided to change the messenger. His deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, has been much more vocal, issuing seven messages this year. In years past, he and bin Laden delivered roughly the same number of messages.

Or the earthquake in Pakistan could have inhibited bin Laden's ability to transmit messages. Or a tape could have been destroyed in the rubble. Yet, al-Zawahri has managed to send out a message since the earthquake, calling on Muslims to provide aid.

Bin Laden also could be plotting an attack on the United States and has made a strategic messaging decision to keep quiet in the lead-up to the attack, Venzke said.

In a recent interview, the head of the National Counterterrorism Center, retired Vice Adm. Scott Redd, said bin Laden can't communicate with his followers the way he had in the past.

"The more you communicate, the more you try to directly run an organization, the more vulnerable you are," Redd said. "And he is pretty deep in hiding. We know he is not communicating very much."

President Bush rarely mentions bin Laden, who has eluded U.S. capture despite being the most-sought terrorist in the world. Bush did mention him by name in a series of speeches focused on the war in terror last month.

Half of Americans think it's likely that the United States will capture or kill bin Laden, a number that has moved little over the last three years, according to a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll.

Associated Press writer Will Lester contributed to this report.


Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer online news article at
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2005, 5:31pm
 
Reid thinks Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan earthquake

Nov 25, 2005, 09:45 AM CST

Nevada Senator Harry Reid thinks Osama Bin Laden was killed in last month's earthquake in Pakistan.

Speaking Wednesday on News 4's Nevada News Makers, Reid says he was informed today that Bin Laden may have died in the October temblor.

"I heard today that he may have died in the earthquake that they had in Pakistan, seriously." Reid says that if that is the case, "that's good for the world."

When asked about Bin Laden during an exclusive News 4 interview, Reid said, "I'm not sure he is alive anymore. I think perhaps the earthquake took him down. I certainly hope so."

You can see portions of that exclusive interview on News 4 at Five and Six today.

Nevada News Makers airs on News 4 at 12:30 p.m.


Source: KRNV-4 Reno online news article at  http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4159840&nav=8faO
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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2005, 8:44pm
 
The trouble with the so-called 'hunt' for Bin Laden is there are a ton of "I think" and "We believe" and "Quite possibly" statements and scenarios coming out of the D.C. proaganda machine with no real evidence to speak of.
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Unfortunately that is so true, Gene.  Undecided
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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2006, 8:32pm
 
Bin Laden Vows Never to Be Captured Alive


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CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden vowed never to be captured alive and said the U.S. military had become as "barbaric" as Saddam Hussein in an audiotape reposted on a militant Islamic Web site after first being broadcast last month.

In the tape posted to the Web site Monday, bin Laden offered the United States a long-term truce but also said his al-Qaida terror network would soon launch a fresh attack on American soil. The tape was initially broadcast Jan. 19 on Al-Jazeera, the pan-Arab satellite channel.

Islamic militant Web forums often repost messages from al-Qaida leaders to ensure sympathizers can see them. U.S. intelligence officials confirmed that last month's tape was of bin Laden — making it his first message in more than a year.

"I have sworn to only live free. Even if I find bitter the taste of death, I don't want to die humiliated or deceived," bin Laden said, in the 11-minute, 26-second tape.

In drawing the comparison to American military behavior in Iraq to that of Saddam, he said:

"The jihad (holy war) is ongoing, thank God, despite all the oppressive measures adopted by the U.S. Army and its agents (which has reached) a point where there is no difference between this criminality and Saddam's criminality."

Bin Laden also denied Bush administration assertions that it was better to fight terrorists in Iraq than on U.S. soil.

"The reality shows that the war against America and its allies has not been limited to Iraq as he (Bush) claims. Iraq has become a point of attraction and restorer of (our) energies," he said.

The last audiotape purported to be from bin Laden was broadcast in December 2004 by Al-Jazeera. In that recording, he endorsed Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi as his deputy in Iraq and called for a boycott of Iraqi elections.

___

Associated Press reporter Omar Sinan contributed to this report


Source:  Yahoo! news article at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_tape

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Reply #9 - May 13th, 2006, 12:10pm
 
Bin Laden 'probably back home in US'

Published: 05/13/2006 12:00 AM (UAE)
By Mahmood Saberi, Staff Reporter

Dubai: If you ask people where they think Osama Bin Laden was hiding, the answer would inevitably be Afghanistan or Pakistan.

But for some reason, a large number of readers surveyed online believe he is hiding in the United States.

In the Gulf News online survey done on May 7, 30 per cent of the responders said Pakistan was the terrorist's likely hiding place. Only 12 per cent said Afghanistan, while 51 per cent said it was the United States.

To double check whether people on the streets are equally paranoid and think on the same lines, Gulf News caught some unwary shoppers and asked them the question. While some people said they would rather not comment on the subject, a large number also believe he is in the United States, as according to them, Bin Laden was once "created" by America.

A Dubai resident said people think he is in the United States, "because he was working for them before", said Daniella Paderi. "And now he has gone back home." The expatriate said catching Osama was not important. "There are more important things to worry about, as the war in Iraq," she said.

Hassan Ali, an Egyptian expatriate in Abu Dhabi, said Bin Laden was most probably in Texas (home of US President George Bush). "That's where he is running his family business now," he said. "All the media fuss is make-believe. He probably has coffee daily with American officials."

Khalid Ahmad in Abu Dhabi also believes Bin Laden is in America. "I am sure they already know where he is," he said. The response changes when an European or a non-Arab expatriate is asked the same question.

Welma Williams said it is highly unlikely Bin Laden is in the United States. She said the online response was to create a feeling of fear and insecurity among the American people. "He is moving around all the time. He can't be in one place," she said. "Catching him is important. We have to examine the whole school of thought behind the terrorist acts. It is more important to understand why it happened," she said.

One expatriate who did not wish to be identified, said she does not think about such things. "Life has to go on. You can't live in fear all the time," she said.

Andy Sheekey said people thought Bin Laden was in the United States because of paranoia. He also felt it was because of a "complete lack of trust in the judicial system. Cracking down on poverty is probably the major thing that needs to be done (rather than hunting him down)". Asked where in the United States would the terrorist likely be, he said "Washington".

John Churchill Jnr. from England felt people were "misinformed" when they said he was in America. "I can't think why he would be there when he is on their number one wanted list. He would be among his people," he said.

Yasmin Ali, an American, felt Bin Laden was in Pakistan because reports say so. "If he was in the United States, he would be somewhere in the backwaters. People probably wish he was in the United States."

Gary Hansard had no idea why people would think such a thing. "It's important for the Iraqi people that he is caught," he said.

Hussain Al Saeedi, an Egyptian teacher living in Abu Dhabi, said Osama was is in Afghanistan.

Sana Shaikh, a teacher from Pakistan, said he is in Afghanistan while Larry from the Philippines said he was in Pakistan.

Mohammad Junad, a 26-year-old bank employee from India, felt that Bin Laden is most probably dead. "All the videos we see of him are all fake."

- Additional reporting by Mohammad Shamseddine in Abu Dhabi


Source:  Gulfnews.com news article at http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/City_Talk/10039526.html


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Reply #10 - May 14th, 2006, 8:39pm
 
He could have been dressed as a Vacquero and marching in an illegal Mexican parade  Grin

Ok, seriously now. I think that with the kind of technology we use daily we have always had his wherabouts pinpointed but for some great reason we don't act. This is just my guess, not a conspiracy theory  Huh
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From The Sunday TimesJune 15, 2008

Get Osama Bin Laden before I leave office, orders George W Bush

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President George W Bush has enlisted British special forces in a final attempt to capture Osama Bin Laden before he leaves the White House.

Defence and intelligence sources in Washington and London confirmed that a renewed hunt was on for the leader of the September 11 attacks. “If he [Bush] can say he has killed Saddam Hussein and captured Bin Laden, he can claim to have left the world a safer place,” said a US intelligence source.

Bush arrives in Britain today on the final leg of his eight-day farewell tour of Europe. He will have tea with the Queen and dinner with Gordon Brown and his wife Sarah before holding a private meeting with Brown at No 10 tomorrow and flying on to Northern Ireland.

The Special Boat Service (SBS) and the Special Reconnaissance Regiment have been taking part in the US-led operations to capture Bin Laden in the wild frontier region of northern Pakistan. It is the first time they have operated across the Afghan border on a regular basis.

The hunt was “completely sanctioned” by the Pakistani government, according to a UK special forces source. It involves the use of Predator and Reaper unmanned aerial vehicles fitted with Hellfire missiles that can be used to take out specific terrorist targets.

One US intelligence source compared the “growing number of clandestine reconnaissance missions” inside Pakistan with those conducted in Laos and Cambodia at the height of the Vietnam war.

America rarely acknowledges the use of Predator and Reaper drones, but the most recent known strike was on a suspected Al-Qaeda safe house in the Pakistani province of North Waziristan earlier in June. Villagers said the house was empty.

Intelligence on the whereabouts of Bin Laden is sketchy, but some analysts believe he is in the Bajaur tribal zone in northwest Pakistan. He has evaded capture for nearly seven years. “Bush is swinging for the fences in the hope of scoring a home run,” said an intelligence source, using a baseball metaphor.

A Pentagon source said US forces were rolling up Al-Qaeda’s network in Pakistan in the hope of pushing Bin Laden towards the Afghan border, where the US military and bombers with guided missiles were lying in wait. “They are prepping for a major battle,” he said.

The main operations in Pakistan are being undertaken by Delta, the US army special operations unit, and the British SBS.

Special forces are being sent to capture or kill Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters based on intelligence provided by the Special Reconnaissance Regiment and its US counterpart, the Security Co-ordination Detachment.

The step-up in military activity has increased tensions between Pakistan and the US. A senior Pakistani government source said President Pervez Musharraf had given tacit support to Predator attacks on Al-Qaeda.

Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, said last week that the US would “partner [the Pakistanis] to the extent they want us to” to combat insurgents.

Pakistan lodged a strong diplomatic protest last week over what it claimed was an airstrike on a border post with Afghanistan that killed 11 of its troops.

The United States declined to accept this version of events. “It is still not exactly clear what happened,” said Stephen Hadley, the national security adviser.

© Copyright 2008 Times Newspapers Ltd.

Source:  The London Times online news article at
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What's he been doing for the last seven years?  The only time he seemed to talk about Bin Laden the whole time is when he was campaigning for reelection or wanted to get his anti-terrorist legislation passed in Congress.  I hope he does hit one out this time but more than likely he will strike out again.  Granted that all the liberals out in left field have been giving him a hard time but now, at least to me, it appears that he is grandstanding to make himself look good for the sake of his legacy.  I am not looking forward to the next presidency at all but I'm not sorry that President Bush is in the twilight of his career either.  If McCain happens to win the election in November maybe he will step up to the plate and get the job done.
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Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2009, 7:32pm
 
Bin Laden was probably dead before the invasion of Afghanistan began.  At the very least he was very likely murdered, at least Benazir Bhutto thought so, and mentioned it in such a casual way that it seems that she didn't know that it wasn't common knowledge.

Benazir Bhutto on BBC: Bin Laden was Murdered
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