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Why The U.S. Should Stand With Israel
Nov 15th, 2004, 4:30pm
 
I found the following article on another message board and thought it worthy to be posted here in Liberty Hall as well.

Israel, Campus Unreality and Democratic Reality
Postmodern and post-Arafat


by Joey Tartakovsky
Private Papers
( underlines mine )

My mother, past president of the Berkeley-Oakland Feminist Socialist Organization, is no stranger to the zany world of campus politics. Protesting Vietnam in the late 1960s, she encountered radicals of all stripes. But Israel, she recalls, was never one of their causes. Now, all campus radicals, no matter their inspiration—socialists, animal rights activists, ethnic racists, radical greens, alien cults—seem to have a problem with Israel.

Compare the “free Palestine” movement with the “free Taiwan” movement to illustrate the sheer campus brutality against Israel. Professors do not offer lunchtime lectures ‘objectively’ explaining how terrible China is. There is no divestment from China campaign. There is no academic boycott of China. Casual anti-China brickbats aren't hurled out by professors in the Environmental Studies or Dramatic Arts departments. Even at Tibetan freedom concerts, rare would be the attendee that declared China a fundamentally illegitimate country and demanded its abolition.

The calls to abandon our only ally in the Middle East and the foul apologies for terrorism are testaments to the intellectual corruption of the academy. While chanting about peace and justice in the Middle East, the campus turns a blind eye to the world’s ghastliest conflicts, like the Congo war, whose butcher’s bill exceeds Israel-Palestinian fighting by a factor of one-thousand. Upper-middle-class revolutionaries stand in solidarity with the Palestinians, yet ignore the ethnic cleansing of 300,000 of them by Kuwait after they cheered Saddam Hussein. In four years at UC Santa Barbara, I never once heard someone explain why Palestinian Arabs have no rights in Lebanon, but why in Israel they sit on the Supreme Court, serve as Ambassadors and lead parties in the Israeli parliament.

What’s interesting is that the most outspoken are not students, but activist professors, who exploit their position of privilege to preach. It is unfortunate that they were hired in the first place, because they will ensure ideological conformity for years to come in their classrooms and departments. As consolation, I note that their unwillingness to take the American side in any dispute—in fact, their proud hostility towards American principles and interests—has ensured that no U.S. policymaker will ever take them seriously. This is how it should be.

America supports Israel because Israel resembles America. They share common strategic interests, common democratic principles and common jihadist enemies. Some identify the U.S.-Israel alliance as the product of a “Jewish lobby,” a view popular in Cairo and Riyadh and Paris. But do these types really find it strange that Americans are less than enamored of the Palestinians after Americans watched the West Bank erupt in celebration on 9/11? How do they think Americans should respond as they watch Palestinians deploy the same barbaric method of suicide bombing practiced on them by bin Laden? Does our government share intelligence with Iran, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority—or with Israel? Why? In the new war, medieval Islamic aggressors seek to humiliate and bloody the United States, and it is clear where the allegiances lie in the Middle East. It resembles the alignments in the Fascist-Democratic and Communist-Democratic wars. Between the U.S. and al-Qaeda there is no peace process, only a war process, which ends when one side is defeated and demoralized. So it is with Israel and Fatah and Hamas.

Yasir Arafat has left this world. He was the billionaire godfather of modern terrorism, pioneer of school hostage-takings, multiple plane hijackings and suicide bombings. He never stopped calling for jihad, he stole $900 million in public funds between 1995-2002, and he was a failure to his people. After decades of “never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity,” he did so one last time by leaving the 2000 Camp David talks. Some claimed that Israel never really made an offer; others insisted it was a most generous deal. But the terms of the deal were never made public, and so it remained subject to debate. Until now. With the publication of his book Missing Peace, Ambassador Dennis Ross put in print the terms of the Camp David deal, which Clinton personally read to both sides. Guess what? It was exactly what Barak and Clinton said it was: 95% of the West Bank, all of Gaza, shared sovereignty over Jerusalem, dismantlement of all settlements save three blocs contiguous to Israel, limited right of return and a $30 billion compensation package.

The Oslo era is over. Israel has resolved to act unilaterally, a wise and overdue decision. This is now Israel’s policy: exit the Gaza Strip, build a fence and kill the terrorists. Israel has every right to hunt those who murder its citizens as surely as we hunt bin Laden and al-Zarqawi. Terrorists have no right to trial or due process nor protection from the Geneva Conventions. Israel owes the Palestinians nothing except the right to live in their own independent state. However cruel it may sound, the truth is that Palestine will never really be free. Israeli occupation will eventually end, yes, but its replacement? The character of the future government of Palestine will resemble, depending on the outcome of the impending civil war, lawlessness or theocratic tyranny, or something in between, the only certainty being an oppression rooted in Arafat’s long and corrupt tenure. Palestinian society reflects the same blend of corruption, gender apartheid, religious intolerance and conspiratorialism that has left the region impoverished and shackled.

Americans have come to realize that the U.N. is not the esteemed forum of collective world wisdom they imagined it to be, but a corrupt place for the thugs of the world to unite in solidarity against the democratic few. More and more, Americans just don’t give a darn what happens at the UN. They see a crooked oil-for-food-scandal involving Kofi Annan’s own son. They see a UN obsessed with persecuting a tiny democracy beset on all sides by fascistic governments while millions perish without fanfare in Serbia, Rwanda and Iraq. The tyrant-infested UN will not change, and Israel will continue to be bullied. Why? Because there are fifty-seven Islamic-majority states, amounting to one-third of the UN’s total membership. Israel will always be outvoted. Thus, the UN will rule that Israel’s fence is illegal—a measure of self-defense forced after one-hundred and thirty suicide bombings in four years—and simultaneously deny the very existence an ongoing genocide in the Sudan whose toll approaches 70,000. (The perpetrators are Muslim Arabs, and so criticism of the Khartoum regime is squelched.) And this will all be business as usual.

Europe will criticize Israel too. To understand why, consider the large and growing domestic Muslim populations (as high as 10% of the population of France), fears of Arab terrorism, residual anti-Semitism, and kowtowing to Gulf oil producers. But I wonder if this can hold forever. After all, Israel is not really their problem. In the near future, the true threats to Europe will become clearer: tens of thousands of unassimilated, resentful immigrants from North Africa and the Greater Middle East, many drawn to the call of jihad, and a nuclearized mullocracy in Iran. Each European nation will react differently. Some will choose to join the U.S. in confronting terrorism; others will appease it. Europe has learned that if you cross Israel, Israelis shrug and feel disappointed. If you cross the Islamic world, you risk ten coordinated Semtex bombings in a Madrid train station at rush hour. Spain threw out its government for an appeasing socialist, and now learns that the same holy warriors are attempting to blow up its high court and soccer stadiums.

If it puffs Syrian or Egyptian pride vis-à-vis Israel to do at the UN what they could not do on the battlefield—win—then let them posture. It does not change the fact that Israelis are rich and powerful and free, and Syrians and Egyptians are poor and illiterate and weak. Does anyone doubt that grudge and envy do not fire their anger against Israel, a country of six million? Israel’s neighbors have fallen so far behind the rest of the world in the globalizing era that their literacy rates lag behind those of sub-Saharan Africa. Spain translates more books in a year than the entire Arab Middle East has in the last thousand years.

Meanwhile, Israel has transformed a resource-poor land the size of New Jersey into a proud and unapologetic democracy that wins wars. Self-investment, openness and unbound inquiry have catapulted Israel to world leader in medical, military and internet technology, developers of everything from the agricultural equipment used in the valleys of California and AOL Instant Messenger to our ballistic missile defense system. A commitment to economic liberty and the rule of law have grown Israel’s economy larger than those of South Africa and Argentina, whose populations number 42 million and 39 million, respectively. Critics whine that Israelis possess tanks while Palestinians wield only rocks. It does not seem to register with them that Israel has tanks because Israel invented tanks. (It’s called the Merkava, from the Biblical word for “chariot.”) Out of twelve Nobel prizes awarded this year, Israelis received two. These are the earned fruits of a free society.

The Holocaust destroyed forever the universe of European Jewry from which Einstein, Freud and Marx emerged—its culture, language, and two-thirds of its lives. But one of the most curious aspects of this narrative is that the survivors did not allow themselves to drown in a black ocean of loss and pity, or pledge eternal revenge against Germany. Instead, they set about to rebuild, painfully, but inspirited by a deep sense of faith and dignity. This moral character explains why Israel has never produced a suicide bomber, and why Palestine has never produced a Nobel laureate. History is made not by unseen social forces but by men, and it matters dearly in the determination of a nation’s fate whether its Founding Fathers are men like David Ben-Gurion, Chaim Weizmann and Abba Eban and whether they are men like Hajj Amin al-Husseini, Sheik Ahmed Yassin and Yasir Arafat.

Joey Tartakovsky is assistant editor of Victor Davis Hanson's Private Papers. He graduated this year from UC Santa Barbara, where he was founding president of American Students for Israel.
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Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2004, 12:09pm
 
Wow...inceredibly well written and very well spoken. Is there contact info for this gentleman? I can probably find the info if you don't already have it on hand.
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Reply #2 - Nov 18th, 2004, 4:48pm
 
Yes, it pretty much expessed my sentiments as well.   Smiley  There wasn't any contact info for the author on the other message board where I copied the article but here is a web link to the 'American Students For Israel' home page:

http://www.asiucsb.org/
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Reply #3 - Nov 4th, 2005, 5:55pm
 
Israel Advocate: God Will Judge U.S. Stance Toward His Chosen People

By Chad Groening
November 4, 2005
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(AgapePress) - A Jerusalem-based evangelical organization says the recent comments of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice demonstrate that America has a mixed record when it comes to protecting God's covenant land and people.

Secretary Rice created a stir when she hosted a state Ramadan dinner and praised Islam as a religion of "peace and love." She has also joined others in criticism of Israel for efforts to secure its borders against Palestinian terrorist attacks.

David Parsons is a spokesman for the International Christian Embassy, Jerusalem (ICEJ), an organization created to give Christians worldwide a focal point in the State of Israel and to represent Christian concern for the Jewish people. Opened in September 1980, the Embassy exists in part to represent the concern of millions of Christians who love and honor the Jewish people and seek to obey God's Word concerning them.

Parsons says it is "a dangerous game for any nation to pressure Israel into divesting itself from land that God gave to her," and that America's role in Israel's prophetic destiny is still "hanging in the balance." He says although America has been and continues to be generous with aid to Israel, the U.S. government has not always sent a consistent message of solidarity with the Jewish state.

"I'd have to say it's a mixed record right now," Parsons observes. "We're [Israel's] friend, and yet we're pressuring her. Is America selling out Israel for oil? One day this will be judged."

On the one hand, the ICEJ spokesman says, "We bless Israel by the $3 billion in economic and military aid that we give each year, by defending Israel at the U.N., the Security Council, with our veto. In many ways we're Israel's best friend and ally; but in other ways we pressure her into divesting from land."

In the end, Parsons notes, it is God who will judge how good a friend America has been to Israel. "He promises a judgment of all nations on the issues of dividing the land and scattering his people," the Embassy spokesman says.

In addition to raising Christians' awareness of information and events of significance to Israel, ICEJ also encourages believers to travel to the Holy Land and to pray for the peace of Jerusalem as well as the land and peoples in and around Israel. In addition, the Embassy works to mobilize Christian leaders, churches and other organizations to assist in promoting understanding among Christians, Arabs and Jews through various programs.

Chad Groening, a regular contributor to AgapePress, is a reporter for American Family Radio News, which can be heard online.
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Source:  AgapePress news article at http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/11/42005d.asp

Related Link: International Christian Embassy, Jerusalem website at
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/icej.html
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Reply #4 - Nov 4th, 2005, 6:22pm
 
God's judgment upon America can take many forms even today but none will be as fearful as standing before the throne of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem when He comes again to rule over the nations with a rod of iron.  At that time Jesus Christ: the Messiah of Israel, the King of the Jews, the Lion of the tribe of Judah will judge all nations according to the way they dealt with the Jews in the endtimes and on whose side they were on in the controversy of Zion.  Will the United States of America be found in that day to be a nation of sheep?  Or will it be judged as a nation of goats?  Will it enter the Kingdom Age or will it be turned into Hell?  It all depends on how America treats Israel and the Jewish people worldwide in these last days.

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When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And BEFORE HIM SHALL BE GATHERED ALL NATIONS: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2005, 9:04pm
 
i for one believe the only reason that israel is still standing is because of us backing them and because of the military support we have given them...so when that day comes i think he will judge us well...
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2005, 7:03pm
 
USMC4Life wrote on Dec 12th, 2005, 9:04pm:
i for one believe the only reason that israel is still standing is because of us backing them and because of the military support we have given them...so when that day comes i think he will judge us well...


I have to respectfully disagree. I believe that the support the U.S has provided to Israel is exactly as God intended. Israel would stand with or without western support:
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Genesis 12
2 I will make you a great nation;
     I will bless you
     And make your name great;
     And you shall be a blessing.

3 I will bless those who bless you,
     And I will curse him who curses you;
     And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”


True, there could be good judgement upon America for support of Israel, but how much wrath will God pour out on the U.S. for the Bush administration pressuring the Israeli holy land being handed over to illegitimate Palestinian terror-fascits?
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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2005, 1:22pm
 
ya i am not that familiar with how the bible talks about israel and how those that do it wrong will be dealt with.  however with that said, i do know that as a general rule, much of the middle easy doesnt like them and if we didnt support them, i think that country would be flattened from the earth.  over the past couple weeks or so, Irans president has made comments about how the middle eastern countries have to give up a peaceful approach to israel and how its unfair that the middle east has to pay for the actions of the UN or whatever group it was that designated them that land.  Irans president in the past said that israel should be blown off the map, but then again he doesnt believe the holocaust ever occured.  but in one of his recent statements, he said how the US and the rest of the world cant be neutral and peacemakers anymore.  to me it seems like him as well as many others im sure are waiting for us to turn out backs so they can take out israel...
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USMC4Life: i am not that familiar with how the bible talks about israel and how those that do it wrong will be dealt with.  however with that said, i do know that as a general rule, much of the middle easy doesnt like them and if we didnt support them, i think that country would be flattened from the earth


I can explain. The fact that one day Israel will be heavily invaded is true. Where America stands or what part is played is yet to be determined. However, as far as Israel's opponents laying waste to her, the Bible has something different to say about it.
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Eze 38:1  And the Word of Jehovah came to me, saying,
Eze 38:2  Son of man, set your face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tuball, and prophesy against him.


In the above passage, Gog makes reference to the ruler of Magog, likely a confederation of European countries. Rosh, Meshec and Tubal being Russia, Moscow and Tobolsk. "Gomer" is also named by Ezekiel, which is said to be Germany's ancestors.

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Eze 38:3  And say, So says the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.
Eze 38:4  And I will turn you back, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed most perfectly, a great assembly with buckler and shield, all of them swordsmen;
Eze 38:5  Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them, all of them with shield and helmet;
Eze 38:6  Gomer and all his bands; the house of Togarmah from the recesses of the north, and all his bands; and many peoples with you.


According to the above scripture, many nations of the world have no choice but to invade Israel, as God has said He will "put hooks into your jaws," and as you see, along with Russia is Turkey (who is presently being armed by Russia), Persia which is Iran (also being armed by Russia), Germany (watch how they and France usually side with Iran in the U.N security council concerning Iran and nuclear 'power'). These nations will be pulled into Israel by God and whatever God chooses to use to lure them and they will be heavilly armed ("all of them clothed most perfectly, a great assembly with buckler and shield, all of them swordsmen").

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Eze 38:18  And it shall be on that day, when Gog comes against the land of Israel, says the Lord Jehovah, My fury shall come up in My face.
Eze 38:19  For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great quaking in the land of Israel,
Eze 38:20  so that the fish of the sea, and the birds of the heavens, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all the men on the face of the earth, shall quake at My presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.


Above we see that God will be enraged against the hatred towards Israel and the Jewish people.

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Eze 38:22  And I will judge him with a plague and with blood. And I will rain on him, and on his bands, and on the many peoples with him, an overflowing shower, and great hailstones, fire and brimstone.

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Eze 39:1  Therefore, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, So says the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the chief ruler of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.
Eze 39:2  And I will turn you back, and lead you on. And I will bring you up from the recesses of the north, and I will bring you on the mountains of Israel.
Eze 39:3  And I will strike your bow out of your left hand, and will cause your arrows to fall out of your right hand.
Eze 39:4  You shall fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your bands, and the people with you. I will give you for food to the birds of prey of every kind, and to the beasts of the field.
Eze 39:5  You shall fall on the face of the field, for I have spoken, says the Lord Jehovah.

Eze 39:6  And I will send a fire on Magog, and on the secure inhabitants of the coasts. And they shall know that I am Jehovah.

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Eze 39:9  And the inhabitants of the cities of Israel shall go out and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the javelins, and the spears. And they shall burn them with fire seven years,
Eze 39:12 And the house of Israel shall bury them, to cleanse the land, seven months.


In these above passages, we see that in God's wrath and by His hand, Israel will certainly defeat these foes. It could very well be that the fire spoken of in this scripture is a small scale nuclear war, which could be supported by the verse that speaks of taking 7 months to bury the dead, the cleansing of the land and the fact that Israel will use the weapons of her enemies as fuel for 7 years.

Hopefully that brings some clarification as to why the U.S. should stand with Israel and not become allies with Israel's enemies.
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Reply #9 - Jul 19th, 2007, 9:32pm
 
Mideast expert says Israel a 'strategic asset,' not a liability

Jim Brown
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July 19, 2007
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Who's fault is it? Israel's or the U.S.? Neither, according to a leading Middle East expert. Robert Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute, a Mideast think tank, is bound and determined to expose the root cause for the Islamic terrorist threat facing both nations.

In an effort to achieve his objective, Satloff asks some important questions: "Is the problem with our values, or with theirs? With our culture, or with theirs? With our way of life that we need to change, amend, accommodate, appease -- or with theirs?"

Satloff believes that to be successful in the war against terror, the U.S. must first defeat the mindset that it brought this war upon itself through the American way of life and through its alliance with Israel. This mindset, which Satloff calls "a lie [and] a canard," is being fueled by a forthcoming book by professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, and by the latest anti-Israel book written by former President Jimmy Carter.

Speaking at the Christians United for Israel summit in Washington, DC, Satloff argued that too many people in the halls of power in Washington secretly take seriously the arguments put forth by Carter, Walt, and Mearshimer. It is a mindset, he says, that has infected too many of the foreign policy elite in Washington who view Israel as a liability.

"Be armed, be warned, be prepared to make the argument in the other way -- that Israel [ is ] a powerful strategic asset to the United States," he told his audience. The real enemy, he said, are the Muslims who want to impose Sharia law through the gun and the ballot box.

In his address, Satloff remarked that the U.S. and Israel actually share common moral values and common strategic interests as well as adversaries. He argued that the U.S. and Israel need to partner with what he calls "anti-Islamist" Middle East allies in the war on terror.

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...This mindset, which Satloff calls "a lie [and] a canard," is being fueled by a forthcoming book by professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, and by the latest anti-Israel book written by former President Jimmy Carter...too many people in the halls of power in Washington secretly take seriously the arguments put forth by Carter, Walt, and Mearshimer. It is a mindset, he says, that has infected too many of the foreign policy elite in Washington who view Israel as a liability...


Let's be thankful that Jimmy Carter is no longer the President of the United States.  As a professing Christian who has taught the Bible to others, he ought to know better than to stand with the enemies of Israel.  Carter needs to renounce his own book and take another look at God's Book which is the Holy Bible.
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Reply #11 - Sep 1st, 2007, 2:21pm
 
Do you deny that you are looking forward to the destruction of Jerusalem and the forced conversion of the survivors in some scenario similar to Zecharia 14 where "the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished"?
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Reply #12 - Sep 2nd, 2007, 9:54pm
 
JerUSAlem wrote on Sep 1st, 2007, 2:21pm:
Do you deny that you are looking forward to the destruction of Jerusalem and the forced conversion of the survivors in some scenario similar to Zecharia 14 where "the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished"?


I am denying your false accusation against Christians.  I am looking forward to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to deliver Israel from the hands of their enemies which hate them and to execute wrath and judgment upon the armies of the nations gathered together against Israel.

God doesn't want forced conversions.  He gave men free wills to choose whether they would love and obey him or not, to believe on the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God or to reject Him.  Forced conversions at the point of a sword is what muslims have consistently practiced, from the foundation of their religion by Muhammed in 622 A.D. until this very day.

Your citation of Zechariah 14:2 is taken out of context and grossly twisted in a vain attempt to support what you believe.  Try reading the entire passage in context.  It is a messianic prophecy concerning the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to fight against the nations which gather together against Jerusalem.  I'm praying that the United States will not be among them.

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Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.  For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.  Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.  And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

- Zechariah 14:1-4
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Re: Why The U.S. Should Stand With Israel
Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2009, 8:21pm
 
You know that little six pointed star thingy on that flag?  It is the oldest pagan symbol known to man.   This is the symbol political "Israel" has chosen.

Who is Quetzalcoatl?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udYQ89mfVBk&feature=related

Rephan The Synagogue of the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCeLaIVQILk

The Israeli NWO tips their hand. --
Masonic Order Designs Symbology in Israeli Supreme Court Building
http://www.abidemiracles.com/555701.htm


In conclusion, we should bring everyone home and mind our own business.  Let whatever happen will.
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